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abrahma-bhuvanal-lokah #8.16

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#8.16

ā-brahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ punar āvartino ’rjuna

mām upetya tu kaunteya punar janma na vidyate

 

ā-brahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ – the brahma is this earth by fire ruling this world 

punar – the past 

āvartino ’rjuna – is a repetition from ones doing (avartamu) arjuna

Mām- for my 

upetya – contempt (upeksha)

tu – infact 

kaunteya – kaunteya 

Punar janma – the past life or the life of being reborn

na – is not without

vidyate – the attainment of education 

 

Full meaning:

The brahma is this earth by fire ruling this world, the past is a repetition of ones doing arjuna for my contempt infact kaunteya, the past life or life of being reborn is not without the attainment of education. 

 

What is significant about abhrama bhuval lokah?

Perhaps there are many adobes, the physics of which we are here on this earth at this time to do karma. For example the fictitious character Thor had to come to earth to do his karma. 

 

Why is there upeksha for upetya?

I thought about this and what made the most sense for me to click on right away was upeksha initially then I also thought about another word that came up in the search but it started with upa, I realized it is not one and the same. The word upeksha/upetya to mean contempt made the most sense because there must be relevance also to why brahma (the bearded man) is ruling this world by fire. And also significance to why we are born again, because God the all powerful is unhappy with us and so we are repeating the life for the education we needed to have. 

 

Why is Arjuna referred to as kounteya? Does that mean accounted for?

 

I want to answer a past life question, if you were so and so in the past life, you are reborn as so and so in this life. This is reincarnation. Would you recognize yourself? If the soul (or atma) is such it cannot be killed or murdered according to Gita and from what I recall from Gita discussion it has to go into another body. Is that also the reason perhaps we are thought of as GOD’s children. What of spirit/bhutva then? And also what makes that possible?

I want to answer a spiritual experience question, Brahma literally means GOD in hinduism, when I say GOD here, though there is the Hindu personification of brahma with saraswati, I am literally referring to GOD, the all powerful in the way this verse speaks of Brahma.  Brahma is there but not worshipped. 

I want to try and keep the meaning of the verse to what it is, at the same time explaining what it is without going into other topics. 

Here is the meaning of the verse one more time. 

The brahma is this earth by fire ruling this world, the past is repetition of ones doing arjuna for my contempt infact kaunteya, the past life or life of being reborn is not without the attainment of education. 

 

What is it saying it Gita? 

All the world from the realm of Brahma down to earth are subject to rebirth. But O Arjuna one who has attained to me is never reborn.  It is true we are all subject to rebirth. Take a look at my meaning for why we are subject to rebirth. This translation does not accurately explain the Sanskrit verse.  Also, reading it from left to right has to make sense. I hope I am able to do that in the way the verse is understood.