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adhiyajnah katham ko’tra 8.2

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8.2

adhiyajñaḥ kathaṁ ko ’tra dehe ’smin madhusūdana

prayāṇa-kāle ca kathaṁ jñeyo ’si niyatātmabhiḥ

 

adhiyajñaḥ – upon the fulfillment of that sacrifice to agni

kathaṁ – at the end 

ko ’tra – ruined (?)

dehe ’smin – is this body

Madhusūdana – madhusudhana

prayāṇa-kāle – the dream is of departure on a journey

ca – also

kathaṁ – at the end 

jñeyo ’si – knows that 

niyatātmabhiḥ -atma is self-governing

 

Full meaning:

Upon the fulfillment of that sacrifice to agni, at the end ruined is this body madhusudhana. The dream of departure on a journey, at the end knows that atma is self -governed. 

I would like to mention, I was not sure of the meaning of ko’tra. I could not find that word in both of the dictionaries I was using. 

The questions I have how is atma-self governed? I am not sure if I will ever have an answer to that in Gita. 

What does it mean a dream of departure on a journey? I want to say we have all seen at some point in our lives what the end of the body’s experience might look like on television, the feeling of leaving the body, perhaps the last dream state of the body. 

I am wondering if atma is self-governing because it now goes where it wants to naturally? And since we do not have this body anymore. I want to say atma is different from the living entity or the spirit (bhutva), though I am not sure if can say the living entity is with or without atma. Hopefully the book will answer those questions, and my spiritual experience in the way it is all understood.

What does it say in Gita?

 

Who is Adhiyajna (the spirit underlying sacrifices)? Do you have such an idea in Hinduism? This spirit resides in this body? And how he does this? Because it tells us how should a man of self-restraint meditate on the supreme being at the time of death? There are no words for meditate in the entire verse. Prayana is departure on a journey not only used as at the time of death. Where is “kah” from? The words do not start with O slayer of madhu. So it is also saying this slayer of Madhu is who is the adhiyana (the spirit underlying sacrifices)? I do not understand this. 

 

A recap of what I have for this verse. 

 

Upon the fulfillment of that sacrifice to agni, at the end ruined is this body madhusudhana. The dream of departure on a journey, at the end knows that atma is self -governed.