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On Namaste

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On Namaste

What does Namaste Mean?

a. Please come again —–

b. I see the god in me in you

c. I think you are god

d. I respect you —– you are like God.

e. My salutations and oblations to you —

 

A sense of admiration. And greater thanks!

The inner meaning really implies I am grateful to you as I would be to God.

It is the highest form of respect and regard Hindu’s have traditionally held for another human being.

It also shows Sanskar and one’s place in society.

In essence, we bring our hands together to show respect, admiration and thanks.

Ramayana: Guru’s final message

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Guru

Ramayana — Guru’s final message

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v628125DktMZaEk?h1=Ramayan+Part+4

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Pay attention to Guru’s message at 2:21 sec .

“On this occasion of leave taking… I initiate you into the final wisdom. True knowledge liberates. That is real learning is that which frees you. Now I free you — from all the percepts I gave you. Now the mantra to traverse the path of life is —Atma deepo Bhava – express yourself in the way that lights your soul.  That is, you need not take my percepts with blind faith. Use your knowledge (knowledge that you gained) and discriminating intellect to decide your own duty and the path you choose in life.” 

The guru in his final message defined the true purpose of education. You learn from the Guru till you can’t learn anymore, and use that knowledge and discriminating intellect to decide YOUR OWN DUTY and path in life. I would also like to add that not only did he define the true purpose of education but defined the nature of education. You study till you can’t study anymore and then you question everything till you arrive at answers again. Now, Guru has taught me what the words Guru means.

Now I know why they compare Guru to Brahma, vishnu and masheshwara in the prayer our duty to or learning is equivalent to just that prayer.

Gurur Brahma Gurur Vishnu Gurur devo masheswara

gurusakhat tasmai guruve namaha.

4.38 Na hi jnanena sadrsam

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4.38

Na hi jnanena sadrsam

Pavitram iha vidyate

Tat svayam yoga-samsiddhah

Kalenatmani vindati

Na hi jnanena sadrsam 

not (Na)

indeed (hi)

this knowledge gained here (jnanena)

Comparable to (sadrsam)

Pavitram iha vidyate

that which is scared to us (pavitram) in this world therefore  (iha — Telugu, Iha mariu)

is the learning undergone (vidyate)

Tat svayam yoga-samsiddhah

That (tat) done by yourself (svayam) — yoga (what our bodies must undergo) to be equally perfected.

Kalena atmani vindati

In course of time (Kalena — Telugu),   fulfills one’s soul (atmani),  is enjoyed (Vindati).

Iksvakave Full meaning:

Not indeed the knowledge gained here comparable to that which is sacred in this world, that is the learning undergone. That done by yourself is yoga-samsiddhah; the yoga that is to be equally perfected (the many forms of yoga as it applies to life). In the course of time what fulfills one’s soul and is enjoyed. Or in the course of time what one’s soul enjoys. 

What can I say, the way I read the verses it seems like what this is all about is the scripture of mankind, ones yoga. This is also one of my favorite verses. 

 

Prabhupada’s version:

http://vedabase.net/bg/4/38/en

In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism. And one who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service enjoys knowledge within himself in due course of time.

What is transcendental knowledge —— something you can reach with your feet?

Transcendental knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism.  It does not say that in the verse. What is mysticism? —- smoke going up in the air?

When you become accomplished in practicing devotional service you enjoy knowledge with YOURself?  Of course you would, that is the Bhakti you have so naturally you would enjoy it with yourself. By the way there is no word for devotional service in the verse.

Sorry to say it does not make sense to me in the way it should be understood and I don’t believe it is the correct understanding.

Here is what was written in Tapasyanandas version. If you are looking for the gist of the meaning, this works too.

 

 

 

Now… let me ask you all this.

Why are the words jumbled up again to derive at the meaning? So it is no longer “na hi jnanena” but it is “na vidyate” to mean does not exist?

Is there a word for perfect in this worse? There is no word for perfect in this verse.

One who is perfect in yoga discovers IT in oneself overtime, the knowledge? This maybe valid, but what the verse means is knowledge gained here (in Gita) is not comparable to that which is sacred to us in this world the vidyate, or the education learning undergone.

 

The Universal form of Vishnu 11.51

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Drst Vedam– seeing the divine philosophical knowledge

Manusam — that shows all the human (Telugu)

rupam — forms (Telugu)

tava —  your

saumyam — ability of getting along with others is of value

O’ Janardana — people ruler you are

Idamnim — this (idam) minute(nim nimusham)

asmin — I have been

samvrttan — equal in the way it applys to all

sacetah — along with (sa) own doing (Cetah)

prakrtim — this is the own nature’s way

gatah — of telling the past (Telugu)

Iksvakave Meaning:

Seeing the divine philosophical knowledge, that shows all of the humans forms, your ability of getting along with others is of value, people’s ruler you are. This minute I have been (in all human forms), equal in the way it applys to all, along with own doing. This is the own nature’s way of telling the past.

Meaning Isckon:

When Arjuna thus saw Krishna in His original form, he said: O Janārdana, seeing this humanlike form, so very beautiful, I am now composed in mind, and I am restored to my original nature.

Lesson 1 – Highlights

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  • Gita — Is a Song. A song of spiritual knowledge, dialogue between the Guru (Sri Krishna) and the sisya (Arjuna). This dialogue (between man and god) is from the Epic Mahabharata.
  • There are many Gitas (vidura-gita, rama-gita, hamsa-gita, guru-gita and siva-gita but most are only aware of Bhagavadgita.
  • It has been a universal book of guidance. Because it deals with universal issues of life — relevant at all times. It was also described as the “battlefield of life” and with examples.
  • Gita shows three main paths to the divine — the path of action (Karma Yoga), The path of devotion (Bhakti yoga) and path of knowledge (Jnana-Yoga).
  • It is said, Gita merged from the lord while in a state of meditation. Lord himself said — “gita me hrdayam partha – The Gita, O Arjuna is my very heart.”
  • It’s 18 chapters and 700 pearls of wisdom was created by veda vysa.
  • It is the largest epic in th world.
  • What does not exist in Mahabharata does not exist anywhere — root of all emotions and concepts.
  • Mahabharata is called Itihasa — loosely translated as history — meaning being “thus it happened.)
  • Lord Ganesha agreed to be sage Vysa Muni’s scribe on a condition.
  • Gita can be considered as both upanishad and as well as yoga sastra. Each and how it is considered both is elaborated.
  • Upanishads discuss knowledge about absolute truth and essential oneness with it.
  • Sastras are practical ways to guiding us how to attain truth and live fulfilled lives.
  • Yoga means to unite with the Higher. Note — Finally a meaning for “yoga” that I can agree with.
  • First chapter is called Arjuna visada-yoga. Arjuna’s grief became a trigger of his transformation.
  • Gita has been looked upon as Dharma-grantha, Pramamana -grantha, and adhyatmika-jnana – grantha, bhautika-jnana-grantha, marga-darsaka-grantha.  This was elaborated with examples.
  • Famous National leaders such as Lokamanya Tilak and Mahatama Gandhi turned to Gita for guidance. Mahatma Gandhi said, he has come to use it for guidance and it has never failed him.
  • Guruji Swami Chinmayananda 🙂 Calls it Art of Man Making.
  • Place of Gita in HIndu Scriptures. Sruti’s are knoweldge realized by the mantras. Example — the four vedas. Considered the fundamental source of Hindu Thought.
  • Smirti — Based on experiences and realization of the truth —- example Gita.
  • Purana — knoweldge that is ancient but “ever relevant” Bhagavatam 🙂
  • Chapter 2 text 7 — a very good verse on qualities of a good student.

Moving on with the highlights of lesson one….

  • Mahabharata is not just family feud between the cousins padavas and kuruvas for the Kingdom but also a war between dharma and adharma — between good and evil. And what own blood kith and kin is capable of.
  • God always supports the righteous and destroys the evil forces in the society. x
  • It is believed Arjuna was 60 years old when he heard Gita. Lived for 120 years.
  • Learn in Childhood the verses of Gita. In teenage years it’s word meanings; in youth it’s importance and in adulthood — through satsang, study, reflection and practice! 
  • The essence of Gita is path to right action *

There was more to lesson one than what was mentioned. My lesson one alone was 80 pages. I choose and mentioned what was important to me. 

My Gita Course

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    om veena

Last question in lesson 1 —– Reflection

Bhagavad-Gita and how it can help bring inner transformation to your life.

Namaste,

I don’t know where to start and how truthful I should be about my experiences.  I always have been taught by my grandparents and in my Hindu upbringing that truth is God.

I moved from India to United Sates when I was 10 years.  I grew up with grandparents mostly who were semi religious.  Grandma always did her puja and Grandpa always read books and especially books from the Vedanta society.  My parents are not religious people. I have never seen mom do a puja. I think nonetheless she believes in God and went to the workshops offered by the Isha foundation. She knows that I am spiritual person and so she was making efforts for me to join but It did not appeal to me because my challenges were elsewhere. I was more interested in knowing my religion that I never really knew while growing up. None of my questions related to religion or culture were ever answered thoroughly. It was always I think this might be why or we just do this because that is how we have seen it done.

My passion for Sanskrit, Hindu Religion and Religion and spirituality, I hope will one day be my ritual and Yajna.

I picked up my first Gita about 10 or so years ago. I went through some tough times in my life. I looked to books for inspiration to carry me through my journey. I am now 33. I searched answers in Hindu religion and text. I have spent the last ten years turning the pages trying to make sense of the Sanskrit. I wanted to and was trying to read Sanskrit — a language I never studied but looked so very familiar. *sigh* It is not very common for people who turn to Gita to always read the Sanskrit.  When I read the Sanskrit the English translation and purports (or elaborations) of Prabhupada, nothing made sense. It was not Hinduism I knew it to be.  I do however have to acknowledge Isckon for being friendly and helping to answer my questions. The Sanskrit was speaking to me in a way the meaning is beyond me. Things have happened in the last few years that I can honestly and truthfully say is God’s with me. My tears are a witness to my truth.  I have experiences that I cannot fully explain to a human being because it is not practical.  I have taken up an interesting desire for translating the text —it is uncommon and might be under people’s judgement.  As I finished my lesson one of the Gita Course, I just sat there for a quite a few minutes moved by how much I just learned in lesson and how much I respect the roots of the knowledge of where I come from.  I do not know what or how people may or may not judge my work and I realized that is my inevitable journey. I have come to realize though that this is my karma and  I hope it will be fruitful. I can truthfully say God/spirits are with me. Recently, I have also been able to SEE things with my consciousness. I have seen the written out symbol of OM in blue, the time I was going through a lasik operation. I have also this last Navaratri festival (2011) was a witness to lot more things —- with my consciousness. I was left with something heavy in my hand and a pen? I don’t think my body fully understood what took place. I have never seen God with my naked eye or any thing else that was expressed here. Maybe that is what needs to happen for people to see the truth in what I am saying. We can not understand what you cannot put into relative terms ourselves. This was the most “practical” way I could describe my experiences since that was asked of us in this course. We do make choices in life whether to believe or not and that is up the individuals discretion.  With that said—- what would an acharya treat me like once they know of this or me?

Let me tell you, I feel the same or no less or no greater the others. I have not yet met one I wanted to show my respects to wholeheartedly. I have seen how some Swamiji’s respond to their disciples, and it’s not very nice. That is probably one of the reason I am weary of approaching someone about my experience also.   Simply for this reason, the ones I have witnessed talk down to their disciples.  Now, why don’t Hindu’s treat other like we each have an atma (the soul) the popular sentiment of Gita?

I have really come to admire the Chinmaya organization for what I have seen online. I  hope the organization, acharyas, and the Guru see the truth in my words during the journey of this course and guide me through studying Gita so that I can apply it in my life and conquer my challenges.